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welding) might not also use the symbol for other things, but it is not per Y14.5 a symbol that defines multiple radii. That’s not to say that other specs, (i.e. Per the spec, it has no other use or definition. The symbolic means of indicating that a profile tolerance applies to surfaces all around the true profile in the view shown is a circle located at the junction of the leader from the feature control frame…” Thus, though while ASME Y14.5 is not strictly only a GD&T spec as commonly thought of (it also mandates how regular dimensions are called out, the meaning of centerlines, etc.), the “All Around Symbol” IS specific to GD&T, specifically, only to Profile tolerance. What I do want to know while we're on the subject what is the proper size of the circle in relation to the annotation height? I haven't found that in any of the standards as yet.Īctually, the “All Around Symbol” is defined in ASME Y14.5 2009 (paragraph 3.3.19) as: The All Around symbol is a valid requirement outside GT&D. PTC, are you listening? I cannot be more clear than this post. but what are you going to do if you only do this to less than a half dozen callouts a year including change orders? And yes, I did have one go bad on the drawing in a revision. (unfortunately, this circle cannot be associated to the annotation belonging to the leader) This is my current, everyonceinawhile., method:Ĭhange its properties to be leader like (so it prints right) So what do I do when I actually need this feature? Not everyone becomes a Symbol Master! Most don't even get past the clunky interface! My goto surface finish symbol that actually has properties.ģ.was so long ago I forget what it was. and I've created all of 3.ġ: My goto universal datum flag (no PTC GT&D still requires flags on drawings!)Ģ. But this solution does interest me since PTC also didn't bother probably due to the low incidence of use, which I will attest to based on my precision machining drawing efforts for high tech over a period of many decades.īTW: my excellence in creating usable symbols is limited to experience over 20 years. There are ways around that too in the symbol definition. Basically, it cannot be too hard to make a symbol work by drawing a circle, pinning the leader to something else, and as long as the leader tail is consistent, so will the placement of the circle. I would have created this symbol if the problem existed on every drawing I create. Here you can edit the text and/or include the appropriate feature symbol for the dimension. Next you ask why not make a special Symbol (proper) to make ALL AROUND leaders on a generic nomenclature note. So even if there is an All Around symbol for GT&D that you could use generically for "ALL AROUND"-C5 or "ALL AROUND"-R0.2, it would have been lost on me since GD&T didn't "function" for my implementation plan. were "virtually" repeatable on a qualified Dell laptop. Hard crashes on "move datum association to surfaces".
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It is highly unstable while doing my own beta testing on Creo 1 and Creo 2.
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Please know that I can't stand the GD&T implementation as provided by PTC in Creo. I am glad this was posted because I know that I've needed this enough to comment here. However rare it may be, the lack of a simple implementation has escaped me for decades. I know the all-around circle on the leader is rare on drawings for simple dimensions or annotation. > help you with radii and other drawing wide dimensions. > OTHERWISE DESIGNATED THE FOLLOWING APPLIES:". > Additionally are notes have a preceding line that states "NOTES - UNLESS > attempt to spell out how many places the "symbol" would refer to. We have found that using TYP to be troublesome and so we > typical otherwise I have never seen any symbol that suggest such > I believe the "symbol" you are looking for is TYP., meaning Leader line and the horizontal line of the dimension symbol. The symbol is made by putting a small circle at the intersection of the You wouldn't use an all-around sysmbol on the It can be used on a mechanical drawing when itĬomes to a radius or chamfer, but generally the drawing views show them as the use of TYP is expressly forbidden in our drafting standards.Īll-Around is commonly used in AWS standards to designate that a weld goes In all cases of multiple uses for a dimension, it The use of TYP after a dimension to signify multiple times is not even Remotely related to each other or in how they are used.
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The use of TYP after a dimension and the all-around symbol are NOT